Buying Mk2 Cooper - Engine query (5 replies)
I'm in the process of buying a 1969 Mk2 Austin Mini Cooper S 1275. The car has had one owner from new (who I am buying from) and was extensively restored in 2001.
The VIN number on the V5 document verifies the car as genuine, although I know that it is as the owner is an absolutely honest gentleman only selling due to his age. The Engine Number on the V5 is odd though. It is 9FSAH53657. The "H" points to a 1071S, but the number is much higher than the final 1071S engines. If the "H" was a "Y" then it would fit the 1275S engine. The engine plate is missing, but it is certainly an S head with the extra studs, and due to the known history, would be difficult to imagine the 1275 engine being swapped for a 1071S! Would anyone concur that it must be a typo at some stage in the documentation?
I attach picture of engine
Do you know the build date for the car?
Thanks John, The date of first registration was 23 January 1970. However I have just found out that the car was a Complete Knock Down which I have been told by British Motor Heritage Trust when I enquired about a heritage certificate. I am trying to find out where it was assembled, but guess the 1969 must have been when it was made. Without giving away the full VIN number it starts CA2SB130****
I am now a bit worried about going through with the purchase as I have an engine number that doesn't seem quite right and an uncertain start in it's life. The gentleman I am buying it from has had it since around 1971, but the V5 doesn't show a previous owner. It's been a long time and am not sure the vendor remembers much about the first owner other than he lived in central London!
The car is lovely, and drives very well, but without mentioning price, should I really be concerned about buying it based on uncertain provenance?
The information you have provided about this car doesn't make much sense to me for the following reasons.
1/ If the log book gives an original engine number of 53657 I think this number suggests a 1275cc engine probably fitted to a MK2 car built mid 1969 but the prefix to this number should be 9F-XE-Y and not 9F-SA-H which I think was used on some MK1 engines.
2/ The VIN/Chassis number should start with KA2S6-1----
3/ The Commission number should start with 250S-16------
Hope this helps,
Sorry, just realised the car is an Austin and not Morris therefore the C-A2SB VIN number you have quoted could be correct.
Thanks John. Yes it is an Austin. Also turns out I gave vin number with one digit out to BMHT and actually the car is UK built and engine matches. So all good!